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The problem with Kit-PvP at the moment

aureatus

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I don't wanna make a 50k letter essay here so i'll be quick:
There are multiple problems with the kitpvp gamemode at the moment, and most of them are caused by the lack of basic infrastructure of the server. I don't play other types of minigames so i can't really talk about them but if the staff team and the players don't start moving the gamemode is going to be dead by the next 2-3 years (or even less). Given this statement, i would recommend reading and actually trying to apply this if you guys are interested in maintaining the gamemode alive.

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"Alright, but what exactly are the problems?"
The first problem i'm going to list here is the lack of staff members online. It's extremely uncommon to see a player of the staff team on and people can cheat however they want. Adding to what i just said, there are a lot of examples of people who clearly/blatantly cheated and the staff team did nothing to stop them until it was way too obvious to ignore. A shameful example of that is zdog444 having to upload a 2 minute video of him GHOSTHANDING so that he could get banned (come on, what year is it, 2015???). There are a lot of other cases, but imo this is more than enough to understand that the server needs an improvement as soon as possible when we talk about the staff team. An extra tip is to have active kitpvp players as staff members, as they will be online for longer, subsequently lowering the chances of (AT LEAST) blatant cheaters being able to freely play for weeks/months. This is extremely important since reports take long to make and not everyone has the time/effort to make these.

The second topic i'm going to talk about is how the playerbase has to change their behavior regarding to the cheaters. I know that the server already has a rule against teaming with cheaters but there is more into it. Firstly, let's take a look at how people would behave if they saw someone cheating back in the day: they would not only report the player, but also make the player feel ashamed of cheating. If you cheated and you were caught, you would expect to be completely apart from the community. No one would like you, no one would invite you to their team and you wouldn't see a reason to keep playing, as you already ruined your "minecraft career". The three available options were to go to another server, quit minecraft or to bhop and not take the game seriously. You see? There is some stuff that the staff team is not able to change, so the playerbase has to play that role. The players nowadays are all lazy and the first thing that comes to their mind when they see someone cheating is "this server is trash i'll cheat too", creating an unstoppable chain of closet cheaters and completely ruining the server.

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These are tremendously basic points and if you guys don't take the time and effort to solve these problems that says enough about why the server is in its current state. Have a good day/night.
 

prober90

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You should report the players if it's that obvious that they are cheating. You should work too to get these players banned rather than relying entirely on staff members.
 

indianpapa

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Unfortuantely, your this server does not allow retards like you to enter it and do all of this, Please delete your hacked client and rejoin the game, Sincerely
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Arnav Bhai
 
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aureatus

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You should report the players if it's that obvious that they are cheating. You should work too to get these players banned rather than relying entirely on staff members.
I talked about that in the post. The point is that the staff team at the moment is nearly useless and rarely bans someone in a server that is filled with cheaters. Not to mention the lack of effort they put into the server. Once i got false banned (an extremely obvious one) and the staff team took an entire month to answer my appeal, and that was because one of my friends convinced one in a call to check it.
 
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You should report the players if it's that obvious that they are cheating. You should work too to get these players banned rather than relying entirely on staff members.
Not everyone has a good pc or laptop who can record without lag 24x7

Like mine
I get 40-50 fps on avg and while I record I get 20-30fps . How are you so sure that every person who encounters a hacker will be able to record a video and report him
?
 

prober90

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Not everyone has a good pc or laptop who can record without lag 24x7

Like mine
I get 40-50 fps on avg and while I record I get 20-30fps . How are you so sure that every person who encounters a hacker will be able to record a video and report him
?
I play on a mid laptop and using built in recorder isn't hard who says to record 24/7 just record when needed
 

TerryGray

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I don't wanna make a 50k letter essay here so i'll be quick:
There are multiple problems with the kitpvp gamemode at the moment, and most of them are caused by the lack of basic infrastructure of the server. I don't play other types of minigames so i can't really talk about them but if the staff team and the players don't start moving the gamemode is going to be dead by the next 2-3 years (or even less). Given this statement, i would recommend reading and actually trying to apply this if you guys are interested in maintaining the gamemode alive.

<============================>

"Alright, but what exactly are the problems?"
The first problem i'm going to list here is the lack of staff members online. It's extremely uncommon to see a player of the staff team on and people can cheat however they want. Adding to what i just said, there are a lot of examples of people who clearly/blatantly cheated and the staff team did nothing to stop them until it was way too obvious to ignore. A shameful example of that is zdog444 having to upload a 2 minute video of him GHOSTHANDING so that he could get banned (come on, what year is it, 2015???). There are a lot of other cases, but imo this is more than enough to understand that the server needs an improvement as soon as possible when we talk about the staff team. An extra tip is to have active kitpvp players as staff members, as they will be online for longer, subsequently lowering the chances of (AT LEAST) blatant cheaters being able to freely play for weeks/months. This is extremely important since reports take long to make and not everyone has the time/effort to make these.

The second topic i'm going to talk about is how the playerbase has to change their behavior regarding to the cheaters. I know that the server already has a rule against teaming with cheaters but there is more into it. Firstly, let's take a look at how people would behave if they saw someone cheating back in the day: they would not only report the player, but also make the player feel ashamed of cheating. If you cheated and you were caught, you would expect to be completely apart from the community. No one would like you, no one would invite you to their team and you wouldn't see a reason to keep playing, as you already ruined your "minecraft career". The three available options were to go to another server, quit minecraft or to bhop and not take the game seriously. You see? There is some stuff that the staff team is not able to change, so the playerbase has to play that role. The players nowadays are all lazy and the first thing that comes to their mind when they see someone cheating is "this server is trash i'll cheat too", creating an unstoppable chain of closet cheaters and completely ruining the server.

<=============================>
These are tremendously basic points and if you guys don't take the time and effort to solve these problems that says enough about why the server is in its current state. Have a good day/night.
Is there any update on this?
 

realoneness

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You should report the players if it's that obvious that they are cheating. You should work too to get these players banned rather than relying entirely on staff members.
wht are you on about? how do we work to get cheaters banned besides recording? You do realize it takes the staff team minimum of A DAY to respond to your report but thats if you're lucky because all i know from experience that it takes them a while for to respond. Even then the cheater would have probably taken multiple player's loot and definitely ruining a lot of player's experience before getting punished. It is not supposed to be a one sided effort and idek why it takes them so long despite having plenty of staff members. I remember asking an active trial to get someone banned, his/her alibi is that they don't have permission to ban players. LIKE ATLEAST call a staff member who could, you APPLIED to the server TO HELP the server. I am genuinely convinced some staff members only apply for the sake of the title or popularity. Also they should fix player reports forums, sometimes your report gets deleted and you don't even know if it was accepted or denied.
 

realoneness

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I play on a mid laptop and using built in recorder isn't hard who says to record 24/7 just record when needed
not everyone have the same opportunity as you, like the player mentioned above, he is getting 20 fps when recording, how is that playable? even 60 is really bad, so imagine 20.
 
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I completely agree, pika-network should seriously consider adding more staff to kitpvp since its a pvp game which means a lot of cheaters, altho there might be some staff in there vanished.
 

B1ueRay

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I don't agree with you at all about the first statement. Firstly staff are volunteer players they don't get paid and it's fair for them to enjoy the game themselves aswell instead of going through every single player checking them one by one or something like that. Secondly you can't just ask every active player to staff. It's a voluntary position if they wanna take it they can apply we can't ask/force anyone not to mention activity is not the only thing needed to become a staff member. There are many other factors.
(just a side note there are no online staff at the moment does not mean they r not there.)

If they team with them they get banned I don't think there is a reason to shame them (not saying hacking is a good thing) and waste your time rather then just recording and reporting them. But I do say kitpvp players are mostly over sensitive they report others or request for them to grt ss if they die which is dumb
 

realoneness

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I don't agree with you at all about the first statement. Firstly staff are volunteer players they don't get paid and it's fair for them to enjoy the game themselves aswell instead of going through every single player checking them one by one or something like that. Secondly you can't just ask every active player to staff. It's a voluntary position if they wanna take it they can apply we can't ask/force anyone not to mention activity is not the only thing needed to become a staff member. There are many other factors.
(just a side note there are no online staff at the moment does not mean they r not there.)

If they team with them they get banned I don't think there is a reason to shame them (not saying hacking is a good thing) and waste your time rather then just recording and reporting them. But I do say kitpvp players are mostly over sensitive they report others or request for them to grt ss if they die which is dumb
you're just contradicting all of your points, you are AWARE they are volunteered players which means they should have commitment in to helping the server BECAUSE thats what volunteerism is, you CHOOSE to involve yourself in such activity... second of all, i don't know how you got "forcing" staff to be more active from, which clearly indicates you did not get my point whatsoever or atleast the original thread's point and clearly i have not mentioned and persuade anyone to become "more active". Back to my first point, if you CHOOSE to volunteer in helping the server, you don't take that for granted LOL, either you help or not. If you feel like helping the server is effecting your schedule/personal life then might aswell retire, you are not payed/payed enough to force yourself to be in the staff team. Also I have no idea on what youre referring to "there are many more factors" then name them... name the other factors.
 

realoneness

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I don't agree with you at all about the first statement. Firstly staff are volunteer players they don't get paid and it's fair for them to enjoy the game themselves aswell instead of going through every single player checking them one by one or something like that. Secondly you can't just ask every active player to staff. It's a voluntary position if they wanna take it they can apply we can't ask/force anyone not to mention activity is not the only thing needed to become a staff member. There are many other factors.
(just a side note there are no online staff at the moment does not mean they r not there.)

If they team with them they get banned I don't think there is a reason to shame them (not saying hacking is a good thing) and waste your time rather then just recording and reporting them. But I do say kitpvp players are mostly over sensitive they report others or request for them to grt ss if they die which is dumb
also i am not sure whether youre talking about me or the original thread, but my first and second point still stands.
 

B1ueRay

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you're just contradicting all of your points, you are AWARE they are volunteered players which means they should have commitment in to helping the server BECAUSE thats what volunteerism is, you CHOOSE to involve yourself in such activity... second of all, i don't know how you got "forcing" staff to be more active from, which clearly indicates you did not get my point whatsoever or atleast the original thread's point and clearly i have not mentioned and persuade anyone to become "more active". Back to my first point, if you CHOOSE to volunteer in helping the server, you don't take that for granted LOL, either you help or not. If you feel like helping the server is effecting your schedule/personal life then might aswell retire, you are not payed/payed enough to force yourself to be in the staff team. Also I have no idea on what youre referring to "there are many more factors" then name them... name the other factors.
they volunteer to help part time its not something full time and i dont see any reason for them to go out of their way to check each one of them. just report and if they dont check it then i am with you but they clearly check every report as soon as possible. they help as much they can in the end they are not getting paid and volunteering to help the server they main in but they are also players, they have every right to play normally when they want to. i dont see any reason for them to go out of their way to check every single person's complaints in chat as players cry about everything aslong they die. if they have problem with someone they should report on forums if they cant record they can use /report ing.
its interesting that you are commenting on something that you have "no idea" on. if you have "no idea" on it then you should not comment on it. and just a side note those factors vary applicant to applicant such as past history, bahaviour, activity, professionalism and many other factors which are irrelevent to the main comments
 

realoneness

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they volunteer to help part time its not something full time and i dont see any reason for them to go out of their way to check each one of them. just report and if they dont check it then i am with you but they clearly check every report as soon as possible. they help as much they can in the end they are not getting paid and volunteering to help the server they main in but they are also players, they have every right to play normally when they want to. i dont see any reason for them to go out of their way to check every single person's complaints in chat as players cry about everything aslong they die. if they have problem with someone they should report on forums if they cant record they can use /report ing.
its interesting that you are commenting on something that you have "no idea" on. if you have "no idea" on it then you should not comment on it. and just a side note those factors vary applicant to applicant such as past history, bahaviour, activity, professionalism and many other factors which are irrelevent to the main comments

??? WDYM BY NO IDEA, im literally saying no idea TO whom youre replying NOT the context, that alone indicates on how you're delusional. After reading your reply, it really seems like you're a pika network shill, you only talk about your OWN experience when most kit-pvp players have so many complains on how staff manage their own server, its just really bad. I have no idea why are you glazing up so much, you are not getting paid enough to talk ONLY about positive traits of this server. I've been on this server since 2015-2016 and it is ALMOST the same staff management format, how can you have the same management for 9 years. You can literally cheat in kit-pvp while having 3 helpers online and they would do nothing about it.
 

realoneness

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they volunteer to help part time its not something full time and i dont see any reason for them to go out of their way to check each one of them. just report and if they dont check it then i am with you but they clearly check every report as soon as possible. they help as much they can in the end they are not getting paid and volunteering to help the server they main in but they are also players, they have every right to play normally when they want to. i dont see any reason for them to go out of their way to check every single person's complaints in chat as players cry about everything aslong they die. if they have problem with someone they should report on forums if they cant record they can use /report ing.
its interesting that you are commenting on something that you have "no idea" on. if you have "no idea" on it then you should not comment on it. and just a side note those factors vary applicant to applicant such as past history, bahaviour, activity, professionalism and many other factors which are irrelevent to the main comments
if those factors you have mentioned above have no relevancy on the thread, why are you even mentioning it. You are really trying to sugarcoat the situation and making it seem "less" bad than what it really is by pointing out an irrelevant factors. smh
 

B1ueRay

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??? WDYM BY NO IDEA, im literally saying no idea TO whom youre replying NOT the context, that alone indicates on how you're delusional. After reading your reply, it really seems like you're a pika network shill, you only talk about your OWN experience when most kit-pvp players have so many complains on how staff manage their own server, its just really bad. I have no idea why are you glazing up so much, you are not getting paid enough to talk ONLY about positive traits of this server. I've been on this server since 2015-2016 and it is ALMOST the same staff management format, how can you have the same management for 9 years. You can literally cheat in kit-pvp while having 3 helpers online and they would do nothing about it.
"Also I have no idea on what youre referring to "there are many more factors" then name them... name the other factors." i dont get paid and its not like i agree with everything and i do criticise pika when needed such as kitpvp being purely p2w but saying bad things just cuz they are bad in some other factors is not justified. its not like they r god focusing on everything and seeing who is hacking and who is not its normal for them to miss out and its also normal for them to ignore these complaints of people crying in chat if they see someone hacking they should report using one of the 2 meathods. and about so many players having similar experience. when the thing ur saying is wrong it does not matter how many players are experiencing it. ya they encounter a hacker but instead of crying about staff not doing anything they should report them
 
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