GeeGee
Pika Lover
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Suggestion:
Lower the TNT Prices to $4,000 x 64
Detailed description:
The tnt prices at the faction shop don’t make sense at all, the genbuckets are too cheap in comparison with the TNT Price. This makes raiding a luxury when it should be affordable within reason. Right now it’s absurd.
Server/Place suggestion is intended:
Factions
Reason:
These are the prices in pika for the genbuckets and the TNT:
1 Cobble Genbucket: $2,000
1 Sand Genbucket: $8,000
1 Obsidian Genbucket $40,000
1 TNT Stack: $12,800
So let me try to illustrate why this is absurd:
As far as I know in pika the maximum tnt per tick is set to 500 (another absurd but I digress), and theres a buffer rule of 20 chunks from the first wall. This means that if I encounter a base with enough f power to have such buffer I would need a cannon that can shoot at least 22 chunks. Based on my test this equates to 180 tnt = $36,000. So you have to spend 36k per shot and that’s to stack only 1 sand!!
Now following the example above let’s say that the base has the loot/spawners at Y160. Then you probably want to make a 160 stacker or 180 stacker. There’s a rule of thumb for hammers on cannons that goes like this 1 Sand = 1.15 + 1 TNT. So this means that if you want to stack 180 Sand you need a hammer of 208 tnt = $41,600. Now of course we gonna need some tnt to actually hybrid the wall and some other TNT for boosters and slab bust that lets say will add another 80 ish tnt = $16,000.
To summarize we get a grand total of
468 TNT per wall = $93,600
All that money, to bust a pillar that cost $2,000.
Example:
At the beginning I thought the genbuckets were the problem but no. It’s the TNT that’s damn too expensive so I went to other servers that have genbuckets and checked the TNT Prices and found the following:
Server 1
1 Cobble Genbucket: $1,000
1 Sand Genbucket: $10,000
1 Obsidian Genbucket $25,000
1 TNT Stack: $2,000
http://imgur.com/a/RVKm8
Server 2
1 Cobble Genbucket: $62.5
1 Sand Genbucket: $4,687
1 Obsidian Genbucket $2,187
1 TNT Stack: $4,000
http://imgur.com/a/BtLG9
As you can see the Server 1 is similar to Pika, but since pika has a weird eco thanks to the blaze rod sell price, I figured $2,000 per stack would be too low and $4,000 would be a better choice to start experimenting with.
@DutchminerHD
Lower the TNT Prices to $4,000 x 64
Detailed description:
The tnt prices at the faction shop don’t make sense at all, the genbuckets are too cheap in comparison with the TNT Price. This makes raiding a luxury when it should be affordable within reason. Right now it’s absurd.
Server/Place suggestion is intended:
Factions
Reason:
These are the prices in pika for the genbuckets and the TNT:
1 Cobble Genbucket: $2,000
1 Sand Genbucket: $8,000
1 Obsidian Genbucket $40,000
1 TNT Stack: $12,800
So let me try to illustrate why this is absurd:
As far as I know in pika the maximum tnt per tick is set to 500 (another absurd but I digress), and theres a buffer rule of 20 chunks from the first wall. This means that if I encounter a base with enough f power to have such buffer I would need a cannon that can shoot at least 22 chunks. Based on my test this equates to 180 tnt = $36,000. So you have to spend 36k per shot and that’s to stack only 1 sand!!
Now following the example above let’s say that the base has the loot/spawners at Y160. Then you probably want to make a 160 stacker or 180 stacker. There’s a rule of thumb for hammers on cannons that goes like this 1 Sand = 1.15 + 1 TNT. So this means that if you want to stack 180 Sand you need a hammer of 208 tnt = $41,600. Now of course we gonna need some tnt to actually hybrid the wall and some other TNT for boosters and slab bust that lets say will add another 80 ish tnt = $16,000.
To summarize we get a grand total of
468 TNT per wall = $93,600
All that money, to bust a pillar that cost $2,000.
Example:
At the beginning I thought the genbuckets were the problem but no. It’s the TNT that’s damn too expensive so I went to other servers that have genbuckets and checked the TNT Prices and found the following:
Server 1
1 Cobble Genbucket: $1,000
1 Sand Genbucket: $10,000
1 Obsidian Genbucket $25,000
1 TNT Stack: $2,000
http://imgur.com/a/RVKm8
Server 2
1 Cobble Genbucket: $62.5
1 Sand Genbucket: $4,687
1 Obsidian Genbucket $2,187
1 TNT Stack: $4,000
http://imgur.com/a/BtLG9
As you can see the Server 1 is similar to Pika, but since pika has a weird eco thanks to the blaze rod sell price, I figured $2,000 per stack would be too low and $4,000 would be a better choice to start experimenting with.
@DutchminerHD
