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Denied Global Change to Ban Evasion Punishment

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arnav_18

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Suggestion:
Change to Ban Evasion Punishment

Detailed description:
Currently, when someone ban evades on PikaNetwork, only their alternate account (alt) gets permanently banned. This doesn't really impact the rule-breaker, as they can just keep creating new accounts and continue playing without consequences on their main account.

Problem:
This system makes ban evasion way too easy. If the main account doesn’t get affected at all, players have no reason to stop making new alts to bypass their punishments.

My Suggestion:
If a player is caught ban evading using three or more alternate account, the punishments should be:

Main Account:

1-year ban or permanent ban (based on staff discretion).

Alt Accounts:

1-year ban or permanent ban (same here based on staff discretion or it can remain same as it is)

This will actually discourage players from trying to bypass bans, as their main account will also be at risk. It promotes fair play and makes punishments more meaningful. If the team finds this way out to be practical this can also be implemented to Mute Evasion punishments where the ban would be changed to mute.

Reason(s):
• Right now, alts are treated like disposable tools for evasion.

• Players aren’t learning from their bans if they can keep coming back instantly.

• This gives the staff more control and better tools to deal with repeat offenders.

• Gives a fair reason for people to not evade and provides proper justice to people who actually don't evade when banned.

Example(s):
If player X ban evades for 3/5 or more times

Main Account:

1-year ban or permanent ban (based on staff discretion).

Alt Accounts:

1-year ban or permanent ban (same here based on staff discretion or it can remain same as it is)

The best example :

There was a player called IndGamerBoyYT who streams on PikaNetwork and was permanently banned and evades almost daily, having his 50 alts being banned already. IN CASE as an example : If his punishment wasn't permenent he would have made 50 accounts got banned on them, and when his punishment would have expired he would have just played normally on his main account. (Just gave an example so that suggestion gets clarified)
 
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what if they create a full new account as main and applied vpn :unsure:
 

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I just read the lines above, and I know that your idea is useless. If you don't know, when you break PikaNetwork rules, you get a warning point, and if you reach 7 or more warnings, you're banned from the PikaNetwork website for 6 months. Also, you gave the example: 'IndGamerBoyYT is permanently banned from the Pika website, Discord, and in-game. I think he is trying to increase his reach by streaming 😂.' Ban evasion gives you an IP ban, and you can't use a VPN without permission, so no one has any idea how he's creating new accounts. My friend got ban evision 10 days ago and he can't even join the server.
 
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I just read the lines above, and I know that your idea is useless. If you don't know, when you break PikaNetwork rules, you get a warning point, and if you reach 7 or more warnings, you're banned from the PikaNetwork website for 6 months. Also, you gave the example: 'IndGamerBoyYT is permanently banned from the Pika website, Discord, and in-game. I think he is trying to increase his reach by streaming 😂.' Ban evasion gives you an IP ban, and you can't use a VPN without permission, so no one has any idea how he's creating new accounts. My friend got ban evision 10 days ago and he can't even join the server.
I don't really know what exactly you have read, it would be good to read again as the suggestion has a different inference, also VPN is not the only method used to evade.
 

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I don't really know what exactly you have read, it would be good to read again as the suggestion has a different inference, also VPN is not the only method used to evade.
I've read it carefully, and the suggestion still doesn’t hold up considering how PikaNetwork’s ban system works. You're right that VPN isn’t the only way to evade, but when you're IP banned and VPN usage is restricted without permission, evading isn’t as easy as you're implying. For ban evasion, you'd have to change your Wi-Fi or internet completely—and even then, PikaNetwork helpers have access to tools like `/alt IndGamerBoyYT`, which show how many alternate accounts have joined with the same IP. That’s why most people get caught and banned for evasion within 3 days. Plus, most players only have access to 2 or 3 IPs at most, so it’s not that easy to keep evading.
Also, the idea of affecting someone’s main account through alts doesn’t make any sense—it can actually create more problems and might get the main account flagged or punished as well
This is just a suggestion
 
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Also, the idea of affecting someone’s main account through alts doesn’t make any sense
Easy Example
ABC gets banned for 7 days
ABC makes one alt plays on PikaNetwork the alts gets banned due to evasion, he repeats the same for 7 days, basically 7 alts, but he actually played for all the 7 days even when he was banned from server. So like what's the point of ban on main account then?

Also, you can always suggest about alternatives that can reduce ban evades if you got any, I found this as the best and most practical one, as someone would not risk their main account by evading (this especially applies for people banned for short intervals)
 
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what if they create a full new account as main and applied vpn :unsure:
The suggestion is not a cure it's a preventive measure and I surely think the amount of ban evaders would significantly decrease, as someone would not evade just so as to risk their main account.
 

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The suggestion is not a cure it's a preventive measure and I surely think the amount of ban evaders would significantly decrease, as someone would not evade just so as to risk their main account.
lowkey, i heard news saying some kid changed his whole identity that's why he never get caught for ban evasion (this statement need to be prove if it's real or not)
 

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Easy Example
ABC gets banned for 7 days
ABC makes one alt plays on PikaNetwork the alts gets banned due to evasion, he repeats the same for 7 days, basically 7 alts, but he actually played for all the 7 days even when he was banned from server. So like what's the point of ban on main account then?

Also, you can always suggest about alternatives that can reduce ban evades if you got any, I found this as the best and most practical one, as someone would not risk their main account by evading (this especially applies for people banned for short intervals)
I still disagree with the idea of increasing the main account’s ban or making it permanent just because someone evaded using an alt. That’s way too extreme. Not everyone who evades is trying to abuse the system cuz of frustration, or they just want to play casually during a short ban. hitting their main with a longer or permanent ban doesn’t fix anything it just turns minor issues into major ones and pushes more players away from the server, making a 7 alts in 7days kinda impossible.
 

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seems irrelevant to me , most competitive servers nowadays run like this
Main - Banned 7 days
Alt - Perm Banned For Ban Evasion

Main gets unbanned
Alt is allowed to be appealed
so this suggestion doesnt really help with anything
 

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Hello arnav_18,

Thank you for your interest in creating a suggestion to improve the server. We are always doing our best to make the server a better place for everyone.
However, we have eventually decided to deny your suggestion due to the following reason(s):
  • This is a good idea, but it is unfortunately impossible to implement at this time due to account sharing and dynamic IP addresses, which could result in false bans. We may revisit the idea at a later date if we somehow find a way to implement it without affecting innocent players.
For your reference, here is a link to our suggestion guidelines → PikaNetwork Suggestion Guidelines.
Please make sure to read and understand them before suggesting again.

We also advise you to use our Thread Search Feature to look for (similar) already made suggestions and upvote them instead.
Have fun playing on PikaNetwork!
 
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